BONES Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Man, I really should come here more often.Clerks II: Rated R. If you bring it home and let small children watch, that's your fault if you don't like kids seeing/ hearing it. And wow. If I were going to use Clerks II as a reference, I would've used the whole donkey show scene instead. Seriously, though. The kiddies will hear worse on friggin network TV. And that's HEARING it. Words are just words, made offensive by soceity. I've never censored my kid from the real world (by real world, I mean this doesn't include things like porn). She's 17 and she turned out fine. words are just words made offensive by society Indeed I agree with you ... my folks did the same always open and honest with all us kids and hell we rock. Oh hell the donkey show scene classic. http://www.n-raged.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 (edited) yup my parents were the same way. i was probably hearing curse words the day i was born. i know i curse a lot (as you can tell) but i think i turned out okay. besides, i only curse when i'm around ppl who i know will not get pissed off or say shit to me. but ppl need to seriously lighten up about it. if you are gonna throw a hissy fit over a bad word on a magazine cover, you need some help. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T LOOK AT IT!! Edited November 27, 2007 by Amanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quackster Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 Well, that's true, but some parents might feel it's wrong to let very young children see/hear curse words at such a young age.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted November 28, 2007 Report Share Posted November 28, 2007 well then that's the parents job to determine if they want their child to hear/see it. sorry but the first amendment trumps all. (for us u.s. ppl) last time i checked, if you don't find something appropriate/get offended by/don't like something then that is just too damn bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 There are laws in many, if not all states, that make it illegal to use obscene or other colorful language in public. It's one of those where the victim would need to pursue the matter though. That said, the "Freedom of speech" argument isn't as valid as you would think. Your freedom of speech has some limitations. For example, if you go into a crowded restaurant and yell "FIRE!", you could be held responsible for anything that happens. Including being charged with criminal activity. The point isn't to say that children shouldn't be allowed to see it (that's another debate in and of itself). The point is that by putting it in such a place that kids are subjected to it, without parents having any say in it, then that is an offensive act. Think of it like this. A parent who doesn't mind it, there is no issue. A parent who DOES mind it, they are not given the choice. You don't have the right to say that the parent is wrong to want to filter that from their children. If that parent isn't given the choice, then that's the same as telling them how they must raise their kid, on something that should be their decision. If you think you were raised just fine, with profanity being a part of your life, then that's your choice. But it doesn't mean that everyone agrees with that, nor does it mean that it makes it acceptable to plaster magazine covers with profanities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 i was refering to freedom of the press... and if the states have the laws, good for them. okay but is there anything stopping you from saying fire? you can say it all you want, the consequences are a whole different thing. you still have the ability to say whatever the hell you want. nobody is like putting a gun to your head saying you can't say that. but it really isn't up to the costumer. if the store has the magazine on display, do you really think they are gonna stop selling it because of someone complaining? i doubt it. if the parents see the word there and they dislike it, they can always shop at another store. they have the choice to do that. but if they choose to go to that store they are at fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Your way of thinking is why there is a decline in proper customer care in the world today. Also, by your argument, they should just put porn magazines at the checkout counter, uncovered, where anyone can see them. Freedom you know. Besides, even if someone has a gun to your head, you can still say what you want. Just your life may come to a quick end if you're not careful. So your point really isn't valid. Something being illegal doesn't stop it from happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Your way of thinking is why there is a decline in proper customer care in the world today.oh nooooo :[ Also, by your argument, they should just put porn magazines at the checkout counter, uncovered, where anyone can see them Freedom you know. point? Besides, even if someone has a gun to your head, you can still say what you want. Just your life may come to a quick end if you're not careful. So your point really isn't valid. Something being illegal doesn't stop it from happening.right, but that still doesn't mean there are "limitations" on freedom of speech. read the 1st amendment to the constituion. no where does it state anything about limitations or consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 right, but that still doesn't mean there are "limitations" on freedom of speech. read the 1st amendment to the constituion. no where does it state anything about limitations or consequences. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. Notice that it forbids Congress from doing it. However, it doesn't forbid state and local governments from limiting it. Also, it doesn't say that you may infringe on other peoples rights. The basic concept is that you should be able to speak out against the government without being punished for it, to believe what you want to believe and to be who you are. Not to give you permission to go out and offend people. It's common sense that there are going to be some things that you should not say, nor are allowed to say, depending on circumstances. If an FBI agent were to go onto the news and divulge secrets that put our nation at risk, are they protected by the 1st amendment? No. They could be put on trial for treason. All too often, people yell out that they are free to say what they want, yet they say it for selfish reasons, rather than respecting it's purpose. "I can say anything I want because it says so" and then start acting obnoxious, rather than being like, "This is a great country because everyone, including me, is free to express themselves." Keep in mind that your rights end where my rights begin, and vice-versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 (edited) forget it. you're missing my point. Edited December 5, 2007 by Amanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I'm not missing your point. You're missing the point that not everyone agrees with you nor your ways, and that in this given situation, the magazine should have gone with "better safe than sorry". It's rather disturbing to me that the concept of respecting others rights is being highly forgotten by some on here. Just because some don't see a problem with it, doesn't mean that those who do are in the wrong. That narrow minded way of thinking is the flaw of many forms of government, and also the reason for their failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 I'm not missing your point.but you are. it's difficult to explain it on the internet. and bc you will never consider anything, i'm not gonna try to explain it again. You're missing the point that not everyone agrees with you nor your ways, and that in this given situation, the magazine should have gone with "better safe than sorry".i'm not asking anyone to agree with me. i don't give two shits about their opinion on this, or if they side with me. so, pretty much, everyone else is wrong and you're right? cuz that's how you're coming off.It's rather disturbing to me that the concept of respecting others rights is being highly forgotten by some on here. Just because some don't see a problem with it, doesn't mean that those who do are in the wrong. That narrow minded way of thinking is the flaw of many forms of government, and also the reason for their failure.whatever you say. bc wolfie knows all right?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Look at how you're responding.i don't give two shits about their opinion on this Your opinion is the only one that matters then? The idea is that it should be up to the parent to decide if and when they want to allow their child(ren) to be taught about profanity, and not the magazines sitting at the checkout lines. If the parent decides earlier rather than later, then that is their choice. But to force it onto the parent is disrespectful to them. My opinion is respectful to the rights of the parent. Your opinion is that of "screw the parent's rights". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 it's not being forced! the magazine is just sitting there. it's not popping out and doing a dance to get the child's attention. and my opinion is not screw the parent's rights. you should seriously just like move to a desserted island, make up your own laws, name it Wolfie Land, and keep all the magazines with profanity on them in the ocean. Your opinion is the only one that matters then?to me, yes i'm just gonna stop here with this bc in the two years (or something like that) that i've known you, i know that you're just gonna keep on going with this until you 'win'. ttfn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Well then using your argument, porn magazines, cigarettes and even guns should be available at the checkout counters, because after all, they're not jumping out at the kids... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amanda Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 (edited) there's age restrictions on those, there aren't any on magazines. but w/e screw you and your site adios Edited December 7, 2007 by Wolfie Language Amanda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONES Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 (edited) ^ WOW Wolfie Way to piss people off man. I gotta say this naw never mind not worth it. Edited December 6, 2007 by BONES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 She's just like that. I don't see what the big deal is. Many people would get offended by that being in easy view of kids, so the simple solution is to not put it on the cover, or to hide it enough that little kids can't see it. Those who wouldn't be offended can look at it and no problem. Those who feel that their kids shouldn't be exposed to it can keep it from them. Everyone wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONES Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Well it is what it is ya know..... we agree to disagree..... such is life.... Ya can never make everyone happy..... It is all good in the hood. http://www.n-raged.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quackster Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Posted January 10, 2008 Report Share Posted January 10, 2008 lol http://www.n-raged.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted May 23, 2009 Report Share Posted May 23, 2009 That magazine cover totally takes the buiscutNo need for that amount of sex talk on the front cover! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myranda Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I agree, children shouldnt be exposed to cuss words and all that at a young age, it bothers me that my brother knows all that shit. I dont want him getting into trouble in middle school next year cause he knows about this stuff, hopefully he s smart and wont do anything.... but yeah i agrree with wolfie about this =P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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